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This MiniMix was (very quickly!) produced as a demonstration for DCMusic (however, comments and criticism are always welcome). The mix has been produced using radio edit length versions so I've had to loop certain intro parts to make them longer and more mixable (for my prefered mixing style). I've also been lazy and only used tracks with a 4/4 style beat (there seems to be a lot of them about at the moment!)
Please note some of the tracks have explicit lyrics.
The times listed below are when the mixes actually begin so initially may be a little hard to hear.
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- ( 00:00 ) Fergie - Fergalicious (well, the very end of it!
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- ( 00:08 ) Janet Jackson - Feedback
- ( 01:26 ) Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music
- ( 02:59 ) Ying Yang Twins - Drop
- ( 05:35 ) Timbaland - The Way I Are
- ( 07:07 ) Pitbull - Go Girl
Also, if you listen carefully from 4:33 you will hear the first beat of the first bar of Timbalands The Way I Are used to 'personalise' Ying Yang Twins' Drop (on the first beat of every bar) and then the full intro from Timbo's track is used during the scratch break of Drop.
The MP3 has been encoded at a low bitrate (and low quality) for obvious reasons. |
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lol WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?!! Mine was plumbing compared to yours!
Your's sounded professional.
Can I ask for some constructive criticism. I mean I know your transitions are longer, but I want to know the main differences between yours and mine, and how I can get my mixes sounding like yours.
Also, I understand here it's a different scenario because all beats are 2-step, but
what helped you determine which songs to mix into each other?
That seems to be a problem for me lol
Btw, thanks a million for doing the mix |
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This was pretty decent.
Shouldnt it be in the dance section or something?
I mean.. Elvis with a dance beat wouldnt go in the rock section. |
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| RAZARLIONZ wrote: |
This was pretty decent.
Shouldnt it be in the dance section or something?
I mean.. Elvis with a dance beat wouldnt go in the rock section. |
I think you'll find they're all still classed as urban, which the title reflects (which in my book encompasses all hip-hop/R'n'B/Rap genres) despite that fact they have a 4/4 beat (and these are all completely 100% as the original track is, apart from the additional loops to extend certain portions of the original tracks)... Unless you class Notorious BIG - , B2k - Badaboom, Timbaland - The Way I Are, Joe Budden - Fire, (almost everything by) Ne-Yo and many more besides as dance music! |
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Whoooaa... Slow down tiger.
Was merely a question.
"Unless you class Notorious BIG - , B2k - Badaboom, Timbaland - The Way I Are, Joe Budden - Fire, (almost everything by) Ne-Yo and many more besides as dance music!"
Thats a bit far fetched dont you think?
I'll leave it there! |
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| What part is a bit far fetched? All the tracks I've mentioned have a strong 4/4 beat yet are still classed as 'urban'. The tracks I chose are a little more uptempo but they certainly aren't dance...not by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Whats your definition of 'dance' hehe! 
Also, where do I find the 'dance section' on this website?
And since when exactly has 'dance' been classified as a genre....? I get people dancing to all
the above artists (except Fergie, its like someone farted on the dancefloor everytime
I play something from her in the Persian Gulf)
Whatever interpretation of the style you make, this is a seriously hot mix Shades!
I would say this is 'dance' music, (clue is in the title) but to me this doesnt decribe a genre.
Genre's mean sh1t anyway, ill mix a soul track with a reggae set and the dancefloor
dig it, the most important thing is flow.
What did you mix this on out of interest Shades? |
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| DJShadesUK wrote: |
| What part is a bit far fetched? All the tracks I've mentioned have a strong 4/4 beat yet are still classed as 'urban'. The tracks I chose are a little more uptempo but they certainly aren't dance...not by any stretch of the imagination. |
BAH............
Cant you take anything in??
I asked a QUESTION!!! No need to get all f****n defensive about it!!
And I aint gonna sit here and take your s**t just because youre staff!!
Grow up clown.......... Im out this s**t!! |
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| RAZARLIONZ wrote: |
| DJShadesUK wrote: |
| What part is a bit far fetched? All the tracks I've mentioned have a strong 4/4 beat yet are still classed as 'urban'. The tracks I chose are a little more uptempo but they certainly aren't dance...not by any stretch of the imagination. |
BAH............
Cant you take anything in??
I asked a QUESTION!!! No need to get all f****n defensive about it!!
And I aint gonna sit here and take your s**t just because youre staff!!
Grow up clown.......... Im out this s**t!! |
Actually, you're completely right, I am a member of staff and as such...
NO Swearing/other profanities - Rule 3
We are trying to run a friendly and polite forum and as such outbursts like that will not be tolerated. Please feel free to express your opinion, that is what these forums are for, but please try to do so in a polite and civilised manner. If you can't play nice then don't play at all.
Please remember that any more outbursts such as that, directed towards myself or anybody else, I may, after consultation with my peers, use my powers to issue warnings or in extreme circumstances a complete ban. Please consider this an friendly, informal warning (a "word in your ear" if you will) about your conduct.
If you have something useful to contribute to this thread please continue to do so but please do not force me to lock this thread. |
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Do you see me shaking??
Do as you will!!
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| This was pretty decent. |
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My apologies. After your outburst it was easy to overlook your useful contribution so the line:
"If you have something useful to contribute to this thread please continue to do so but please do not force me to lock this thread."
should have read:
"If you have anything else useful to further to contribute to this thread please continue to do so but please do not force me to lock this thread."
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Do you see me shaking??
Do as you will!! |
Please do not tempt me, you are walking a very fine line. I am not saying that as the recipient of your outburst but as a moderator. Despite also being a contributor my "job" here is to make sure everybody plays nicely and that Acapellas4U is a pleasant and welcoming resource for all. if you cannot follow the rules action will be taken.
I have tried to be fair and objective from a moderators point of view when I could have quite easily replied in an equally personal and child-like manner however that is not in the spirit of Acapellas4U and wouldn't make me a very good moderator.
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Also, I understand here it's a different scenario because all beats are 2-step, but
what helped you determine which songs to mix into each other?
That seems to be a problem for me lol |
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and generally when people refer to dance music I associate it as the umbrella/genre of house/trance (and so on) music.
But I see where you're coming from. It's like 'Pop'.. I'm trying to stop associating it with Britney Spears, Madonna, Kylie Minogue and whoever, because there is no definition of the pop genre in terms of music structure.. It really is just muysic that's popular - music that would be played on the radio or on the charts. Just as Britney Spears' older stuff is pop, so was Tupac or Kanye West. lol I'll stop digressing. |
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Ya Mix is OK - for POPs**t, cuz your kind of mix has nothing to do with HIPHOP. these kind of remixes are the reason that HipHop is DEAD.
i am sure that this one will work in most of the clubs, but u will never see me dance. if somebody raises his middlefinger up in the air. that will be me. 
dont take it personal 
u are really quick in quoting the forum-rules. but u are not able to take criticism.
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I aplogise for the long post but politely request that it be read carefully and fully. Thank you! 
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Ya Mix is OK - for POPs**t, cuz your kind of mix has nothing to do with HIPHOP. these kind of remixes are the reason that HipHop is DEAD.
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Thanks for your reply.
Your idea of "POPs**t" is interesting. Lets not forget that "Pop Music" is itself not a genre, its a contraction of the term "Popular Music". Therefore anything that becomes popular, whether its an entire genre, an artist or a single track, is "Pop", but does this instantly make it/them any less credible? Would anyone consider the likes of 50 Cent, Missy Elliott, Kanye West, Pharell Williams and Snoop Dogg, who all make popular music, to be "Pop" artists?
I think what you mean is that (some of) the selected tracks are purposefully made to have popular appeal and therefore a greater commercial value and have little relation to the roots of which they take their influence/inspiration from. This is therefore the reason why I carefully chose to give the mix the unspecific title of "Urban" which can be loosely used to collectively refer to tracks which are, or are at least related to, genres such as Hip-Hop, Rap, R'n'B and others whether they be Mainstream Urban (Wiki) or Urban Contemporary (Wiki). While we all know about the accuracy of Wikipedia its very interesting to note that included in the definition of Urban Contemporary are tracks which are heavily associated with African American Music yet have a (presumably slow) "dance" style beat and electronic sounds (which, for instance, sounds a lot like Timbaland to me!)
It is always a source of amusement when someone claims "[insert genre of choice] is DEAD" and even more so when it is claimed it is due to the popularisation of the genre. The "popular" generally takes its inspiration from sub-culture, very rarely is this the other way round. People who like the commercial/popular elements of a genre don't really care about the roots from which it came and vice-versa. The purists/traditionalists will always carry on doing their "thing" regardless. It is therefore inconcievable that commercial or popular tracks can in some way de-value the genres upon which they are based, let alone directly contribute to the "death" of those genres. The two will happily co-exist until the popularists find something new. If a genre does "die" then its more often than not its own doing through of lack of evolution in the genre therefore becoming stagnant and "boring"
In reality a genre very rarely dies, its "death" is entirely subjective based on the evolution of a genre from what an individual thinks it was or what it should be. But for every "purist/tradionalist" that claims the death of a genre (and moves on) there will always be someone new who gets "turned on" by this new direction and to them that will become their definition of the genre. These new people may learn about the history of the genre but it won't be their definition of it. As the genre continues to evolve they too will eventually face a choice of embracing the changes or again subjectively proclaim the genre to be dead (and they themselves move on also).
For instance I personally come from a hardcore (rave) background with my favourite era being 1992-1996 - which 'borrowed' heavily from Rap (breakbeats) and Reggae/Ragga EXAMPLE (YouTube) - back then production techniques were very basic (though I'm sure at the time people would have not seen it that way). As technology developed so too did the possibilites for production, new sounds (synths) were starting to be used, breakbeats got dropped and the 'sound' that I loved was quickly left behind. But this process was entirely natural. At that point I could of decided that, for me personally, hardcore was dead (which many people did) but it wasn't, it was simply evolving.
I don't like everything thats being produced today (but then I didn't like everything that was being produced back in 1992-1996). Today its not hardcore as it started but its still hardcore, it moved with the times and as it did people came and people went each with their own definition of hardcore. There is a mantra that was used from the very beginnings of hardcore and is still in use today "Hardcore Will Never Die" and its true, it won't 'die' because it evolves. The changes may not be to everybodies taste and it may alienate a few 'traditionalists' but it will also pick up new people on the way who may add new ideas and change the direction of hardcore again, that is just progress. Its a cycle that will continue ad infinitum.
The exact same is true for Hip-Hop. It has however been around a lot longer than hardcore and has faced the same challenges time and time again, and will continue to do so. No doubt 10 years ago people were proclaiming Hip-Hop to be dead just as those did 10 years before that simply because what they class as Hip-Hop had changed.
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| i am sure that this one will work in most of the clubs, but u will never see me dance. if somebody raises his middlefinger up in the air. that will be me. |
You are absolutely right, this sort of mix would go down well in a club, that is after all its target. However if someone were to be showing their displeasure (in such a manner) I would be inclined to think "Why has this idiot paid to be in here if he doesn't like the music".
Its similar to a situation every DJ will be familiar with... You're in the middle of a mix and you'll get some clown distracting you*. When he (or she) finally gets your attention you will be informed "This is s**t, put something descent on!". Usually the response is "Well I'm afraid 99.9% of people in here would disagree with you, especially those still on the dancefloor" but what you're actually thinking is "If you don't like it then p**s off somewhere else!"
* Surely these days most people in clubs should be educated enough to realise that when the headphone are on the DJ's head it means the DJ is busy!? I generally have the band of my headphones around the back of my head when I'm working so I'm thinking about having "f**k off, I'm busy!" printed on it
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| dont take it personal |
I won't as long as you don't
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| u are really quick in quoting the forum-rules. but u are not able to take criticism. |
If I'm quick to quote the rules thats because I am a moderator and its my job to. Whether I'm involved in a 'dispute' or not is irrelevant, if someone oversteps the boundries of acceptable behaviour then the rule book will come flying out! As long as everyone keeps it friendly we can all 'disagree' 'til the cows come home!
Despite the fact that I fail to see any criticism, merely a disagreement about genres (which resulted, in my opinion as a moderator, in an unwarranted and offensive post), you will find that you are completely incorrect about my ability to handle criticism. I welcome criticism both in terms of my musical contributions and my moderation duties. For example, I privately asked my fellow moderators to review this thread to make sure, as I had been involved, I hadn't treated RAZORLIONZ unfairly after his little outburst. If any other moderator had of felt that I had treated RAZORLIONZ unfairly (therefore effectively criticising my actions) then, as I stated privately (and now publically!) I would have gladly and publically apologised to him.
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I've been busy and have only had now to login.
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Outburst!!??
This is all I said!!
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